The New York Times has just published investigation into a program called pretrial diversion that’s meant to give criminal offenders a break, but often puts them in debt. Prosecutors across the country often offer deals to offenders to drop cases and expunge records in exchange for sometimes onerous fees. But the Times found that “in many places, only people with money could afford a second chance. Though diversion was introduced as a money-saving reform, some jurisdictions quickly turned it into a source of revenue.” We speak to Times reporter Shaila Dewan.